Dashing Out Life: Reinvention, Real Talk, And The Power of Conversation

Today, I have the great pleasure of reconnecting with Vik DashTor, host of Dash It Out, for an unfiltered conversation about reinvention, real talk, and the shifting landscape of media and influence. I had been on his show a while ago, and you can find that link below.

Mr. DashTor shares his journey of rebranding his podcast after a two-year hiatus, reflecting on how both his personal life and professional ambitions have evolved. We dive into what Dash It Out truly represents—boldness, expression, and the power of having conversations that others shy away from.

As the conversation unfolds, we explore the deeper implications of modern media, the growing trust in independent voices over mainstream news, and the role of podcasts in shaping public discourse. We touch on the impact of social structures, the manipulation of information, and how classism, rather than just race, has become a defining factor in today’s world. The discussion also tackles the dangers of AI reliance, the decline of critical thinking, and how future generations may lose essential life skills in an increasingly automated society.

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Transcript

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Couple of Nukes. As always, I'm your host, Mr. Whiskey, and I'm excited for today. It's a collaboration day where I was on someone's show and now they're back here on my show months apart. I mean, it is great to have this reunion. We can catch up on so much.

Last I spoke to our guest today, his show was not up and running. It had been. I mean, almost two years since it had seen an episode and now he is back at it, rebranded, repurposed some of the old still there, some of the new there. And we're going to get into both of that today. And I already have so many questions for our guests, but  I want to start by saying, you know, he and I were just talking off Mike about even just his own life being rebranded, uh, through his hairstyle, so to speak.

And so we're going to get right into it. Mr. Vic dash tour. I know you're eager to talk so I'm gonna pass it over to you.  Yeah, well, for one, Mr. Whiskey, thank you so much for having me on your show. And, um, yeah, it's kind of a full circle moment, right?  However, so, it's very interesting to all your listeners.

Uh, this is no catfish. I apologize if the brining may seem,  uh, It may seem as though that I'm a devil person. I swear that's me. And I swear that, um,  Yeah, that's, that's me. That's me. However, it was just a press look. It was just a press look. It was a photo shoot. Now that I think that that photo would have been used for my podcast episodes, not entirely.

I mean, when I was doing audio podcasts back in, um,  I think, well, like back in 2023,  it is, uh, yeah, that was pretty much essentially my style then. And that's when I kind of had my shoot. However, I never really released them as much. to promote the podcast. So now you see me two years later, that two year, uh, hiatus she was thinking about.

And, um, yeah, so this is just me and my natural flow. And, um, I mean, that's the thing. It's a duality of life. You always change and always moving with the flow, always doing something different. Yeah. Um, same thing with the switch from audio to the video podcast in which you was a future guest on as well, which I'm so thankful for.

Yeah. And you know, for those of us listening, let's get into. Your old look, you know, it's on the YouTube down there. But for those who are listening only on Apple podcasts or wherever they get their podcasts from, how would you describe the look? Is there a celebrity that you could compare it to or how would you describe it? 

It's not a moment  because it's a full wraparound. I would say, honestly, not entirely. I feel as though.  It was bits and pieces of just everything that in my life like one the whole blonde Brown blonde ash brown, whatever you might call it because it's so it's a compilation of it all It's a caramel colored almost.

Yeah, it's like a caramel Um, typically, I mean I was more on that rocker stage like growing up and like in school high school and you know And um, so I would just like all Always like dark. It was dark. It was like dark, dark clothing.  Um, black hair was always on that rocker aspect, you feel me? So me kind of like  going blonde and doing like more vibrant colors. 

It's, it's almost a solidification in my growth in life. So I look at myself now and I see myself as okay. Yeah, I see. It's a duality, right? I see the gang, you know, with the gang, little, little, little darkness in there, but.  On the outer side, you still see the light. And then of course with the yang, which is typically the darker bone, the inside is still light.

So  it was though with me, it's just, it's me kind of balancing my life out in a sense. Um, and that's how I would describe my brand, especially with the Dash It Out show. The Dash It Out show is very extroverted. However, most of my life I was very introverted and.  So it's, it's kind of a full circle moment for me, you know,  I like the vibrant colors.

I like the expressive, bold look. It remind myself, you know what, regardless of who you are,  there's always a bit of boldness within you. And that's kind of essentially the premise of the show of Dash It Out. And, you know, I, I want people to, listeners, to take away from that there's a bit of bold within you.

I'm not saying you have to be a rag jerk or an ass, but in most cases, you know, there's, there's that boss that lives within you.  Yeah. And you know, if I, I have a gray turtleneck sweater as well, so we could have been matching here. I, you know, I didn't think of it until I just noticed was checking out the style.

You talk about bold. And, you know, not everyone can rock a turtleneck, so it takes a bold man to put one on, and I have a few. I don't wear them often, you know, there's a time and a place for that, but I will say, you mentioned your show, Dash It Out, and I have a couple questions about that, of course, and that's what we're here to really talk about, because that's what you do now, and I never Read a script or anything on my show, but I will read your show's description verbatim, which is after hours talk brought to the daytime.

Let's not avoid sensitive topics, but dash it out real talk with real people from every walk of life. You'll never wait for happy hour again. So there's a couple of different things here. We've got some hints at, you know, kind of the drinking and early appetizer culture there with the happy hour. We've got after hours talk.

Brought to the daytime that can be a lot of things Exactly avoiding sensitive topics and then the dash it out, which we have to know. Mr. Dash tour Is this a chicken and egg kind of question where was it your name inspired the show or did the show just happen to? Exist with that name and you happen to have the last name dash tour  It's kind of both, you know, and I kind of like one of these touch topics on about what you were saying about far as the premise or the  brief description of the show.

Yeah, I thought I was talking about the daytime.  There's really a double meaning. There's a double meaning behind that. And you. This onto something I'm not really sure if you knew, but there's definitely a double meaning. So when people think of after hours, people essentially think in this, this modern day age, they think about partying the next best move, like the next party.

It's net. Yes. That's fine.  Yes, that is essentially a form of after hours, but, and that should out show it is the compilation of both the party aspect, but also that long day of work, like once you get up home from a long day of work and kind of relax, you may want to like eat some popcorn or probably Eat some chips and watch a good movie and then vent to your partner about your day.

Or you may want to put yourself a glass of wine or pour you a nice drink or probably smoke a doobie and just like vent to your family and friends. That essentially is another form of after hours. We talking about your day, talking about your work, the good, the bad, the pros, the cons, and essentially what the dash it out show does is allow listeners who are interested in certain  positions or occupations that my guests.

come on to the show or speaking about. And it allows them to be like, okay, you know what, there's, there's the director, there's movie directors on the dash it out show talking about the good and talking about how he was able to work with these high profile actors and these high profile.  Artists to create this project, but didn't direct is also speaking about those long work hours, the work ethic that comes with it.

And also the sacrifices of your art. Sometimes you may have create a project. That's so great that everyone's like, you know what? That's perfect. It's perfect. But as a director, you know, the narrative isn't going to is not going to line it up. So now you talk to the script,  the script and screenwriting like, you know what?

Let's go ahead and just let's change the script up because The narrative isn't lining up right. And that was a great, it was a great project. The actors delivered their lines perfectly and the cameras, the, the film crew was on point, but sometimes as a director, you kind of get a little discouraged when you have to say, cut, we got to cut that because you know, As creators, we both creators  are, this is our baby.

This is our work, you know? So that's essentially what the national shows about. We don't just talk about just a party and lifestyle, which we do. We do have our moments and occasions. We do talk about some crazy things.  However, in most cases, it's pretty much about the occupation field and the good and the bad that comes along with it and how the listeners who are inspiring to be in a particular field, what they take away is for, and how can better prepare them. 

Yeah, and you know, there are certain things you're not allowed to talk about at work and depending on the workplace and the culture and you talk about Sensitive topics and not avoiding them but dashing them out and that is something even in the world of podcasting for example I'm hosting a guest a couple episodes from now who speaks on school shootings and the reality of it and going into that and He's been denied from several podcasts who said You know, we can't have that kind of topic on our show.

It's too taboo. It's too sensitive. It's too horrific. But, you know, I really appreciate people like yourself and I who looked at the world is, is a messed up place and there's stuff happening and, you know, not talking about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You know, it doesn't, it's not out of sight, out of mind kind of stuff.

So you talk about not avoiding those sensitive topics, but dash it out, you know, dashing them out. What does that mean? I know a lot of people are thinking. You know, probably like you take a pen or pencil and you're like one line in something. So what do you mean dash it out? What, what does that expression mean to you and what should it mean to your listeners? 

Well, it means exactly what it is. Dash it out. If you Google the term, dash it out as a, simply  a quick  moment, a quick and go moment. So you handle your business, you go about your business. There's no reason to overly elaborate on a subject matter. That's pretty much obvious. So that's what it means to me.

However, dash tour, yeah.  Dash tour will pretty much, but  dash it out is  essentially means exactly what it is.  To come and go movement back and forth movement, handle your business and you go. That's why my podcast specifically dash it out time frame is typically around 3040  minutes on most cases 50 minutes, because I know I gave you like a good slot, a good slot.

Yeah, yeah.  I'm a rambler. But my listeners, they typically just want something quick  and quick. And honestly, I think they stay on brand with Dash It Out and also stay on brand with my name. So you asked earlier as far as  did I start the show and then kind of made about my name or was it my name and then about the show?

That's what I said. It's kind of both, you know, Dash It Out is me. Like, even when I was doing music, um, I'm still doing music now, but as an artist, like writing music and composing and performing, my stage name was Vic Dash Joy. My name, like Vic Dash Joy, that was my stage name. And  so the show, Dash It Out, was essentially pretty much an extension of it.

In a sense,  same time, like I said, the meaning of dash it out is to go and from is, is never to linger or to be stagnated. And that's what the message I try to convey on the show, like, okay, let's go ahead and talk about it. We're going to do this and move it along  far as deeper conversations. I am definitely working on something in the near future as far as deeper conversations with life. 

I'm actually in the process of getting a new studio and, uh, we have a lot like live recording sessions and we just go into deeper conversations and, you know, have like nice little panel talks.  Yeah. So instead of the dash it out, it'll be dashing it out, you know,  seriously,  the continuation  of dash and dash out, but yeah, you get the gist, you get the gist.

I do. And a question for you kind of related to that, which is, do you feel like nowadays I mean, we've got so many forms of news from social media, influencers, tiktokers, podcasters, mainstream media, and there's so much going on in the world politically, socially, economically. Do you feel like that a lot of people, especially these higher ups in the governments and people on social media, reposting  and posting and reposting, do you feel like a lot of people?

Aren't, you know, dashing, they're talking in circles, and just kind of beating a dead horse, so to speak, with certain topics, in that it's kind of just wasting everyone's time, and that, you know, we need to come to resolutions more quickly, and have these conversations sooner, in a more efficient manner, otherwise they just keep getting dragged out, and, and, and social media is just negatively affecting that by just allowing people to continually post and repost. 

Well, let me just ask you this quick question. How do you stay in power?  That's rhetorical, but let me just go ahead and just let you know. You stay in power by having something that people need and want, and ensure that they will never get it. So when you see them kind of talking in circles, these politicians, they're politicians for one.

Come on now, public interest is what they live off of. Do you think that they really gave a viable solution to most of these problems?  Do you really think they're going to do that if they've done that?  They were not only just being seen as, okay, this is someone who can get things done, but then it's like, the politicians are going to feel as though, what am I doing?

What am I here for? These people don't need me no more. I solved their problem now, and it's like, they don't need me no more. Everyone wants to feel valued. Everyone wants to be seen and heard. And sometimes, in this fucking age,  I would say the drama, the scandal is what keeps things relevant and alive.  Uh, yeah.

Fortunately, it's America for you. It's one business, you know, business is having,  having a product. You know, having a product that's, you know, that the public want, and in this case, politicians and influencers, they are, they consider themselves a product, they consider themselves a brand, they consider themselves a value.

If you take away the value of something, then what is it? Useless.  Everyone wants to be valuable. Everyone wants to be seen and heard and loved and respected.  Some people were willing to talk about it, but  do just enough.  To show that, oh, I hear your concerns, I will make it my mission to try to help you to try to fix the situation without actually putting the work in an effort to really get the people going.

And  it's a saying, it's a saying that goes that the fish rots at the head. 

Most, most people in power, they, they know what it is that they're doing.  However, if they fix most of these issues, then we wouldn't be talking about it right now.  That's true. That's true. And you know what we've seen even in like media in the entertainment industry, such as different TV shows and movies, even,  you know, these plot twists that the war that the main protagonists and antagonists were fighting in, they were just being continued for the sole purpose of.

You know, these companies that made the weapons or certain generals to stay in power, you know, like I've seen shows where the wars were almost agreed by the rich people to continue making money and to continue having the poor people kill each other off and stuff, and we see stuff like that. Even in the real world.

And I totally agree. It's part of the thing we've discussed on my show with pharmaceutical companies doing symptom treating rather than, you know, root cause destruction, because if you lose that root cause, you lose that patient, you lose that patient, you lose that money. So we see it all the time. Same with insurance companies and all kinds of different platforms.

So it's, uh, it's a sad. sinful, corrupt world we live in. It is very fucked up. Okay. Let me, let me tell you this right now, Mr. Whiskey. Okay. So let's move on this topic. Let's go ahead and just go and put this out there. Okay. I'm a black male living in America. Okay.  Not only have I witnessed  some  racial  BS, but Not to the extent of most of Americans who are within my shoes.

And then you also, people always say like, Oh, you always want me to use a race car, race car, racism is embedded within the DNA of America. You cannot fight that. You cannot ignore it is literally part of our history. You cannot fight it. You cannot ignore it. But a lot of people would like to push it off because it's such a touchy topic.

It's hard to really kind of come in terms with those ghosts of the past. Not knowing that those ghosts of the past are haunting us right now. Okay? Systematic oppression.  Systematic oppression is what America is. And this day and age, systematic oppression does not,  does not just see one race. It sees any and every race.

It's more classism than anything and everything. And for someone such as myself, who's from Washington, D. C., who grew up and witnessed classism to its finest, you can clearly go to D. C. and see that, oh, well, how everything is structured. Uh,  Literally, the lowest part of DC is more predominantly those who are under, um, like housing assistance, government assistance who need, um, any type of,  you  know, the urban areas, those urban communities that do not get the proper development in which they deserve because they're like, why would we do this?

The property value displaces are down because the people who live here. So what's the purpose of investing in the schools? He was missing by school shootings. School shootings happen all the time with kids bringing knives, who get threatened, fights happening. What's been brought to the surface level, what's been portrayed in media  is what they want us to know.

Like we said, if they said they could really put a magnifying glass on what is truly happening, they will look at our politician leaders like, what the are you doing?  I'm trying to really hold back and restrict from like cursing too much for your show because I know it's not the case but seriously what are you doing like is this this is not who I voted for you know and then like now we have the whole thing with Trump with the whole ice raids and everything personally I  I don't really speak too much on politics.

I do can, I can, I can see why Trump is doing what he's doing as far as the criminal immigrants is here within our country that are causing problems. And I witnessed right here in New York City. I witnessed like a lot, like, I've literally witnessed a woman getting robbed and it was like few Venezuelans that live like in a hotel right there at Times Square,  you know, Times Square is like where everyone go and hang out and stuff like that.

So, a breeding ground for a lot of robbery, because you have tourists that come to the city, which is interested about what's going on and, and yeah, okay, long story short to bring, bring it back to the subject matter. Okay.  There's a lot of classism that happens. And at the same time, it's that if you have someone beneath you that you always put on a pedestal, that whole setup in DC lab was telling you about, you can clearly see in certain urban areas how Everyone is pushed to a certain area of the city.

Middle class is typically  middle upper class and upper class is just like looking down and just like whatever that I witnessed that classroom growing up in DC. Now, far as everything else.  With politicians and people of power,  they know what they're doing, they know if they actually really fix an issue, there will be no platform to stand on.

Everyone will be so unified. And isn't that supposed to be the premise of America, home of the free, land of the brave, home of the free.  You think unity, when you think of that. So when you think unity,  but that's not what this is not what it is. So far as what you were speaking about earlier, but the whole, the students, the school students, of course, they're going to show, they're going to show a little something in the media and they probably fix and fix an issue, not the issue and issue just to get people that brief of hope.

But far as things actually improving, come on now, if things improve them, people like me and you wouldn't have nothing to talk about and to discuss  on our shows.  And in general, people of America wouldn't have nothing to discuss when they just speak in politics and this and that. Personally, some people, there are some sick, sick bastards that are in positions of power that see this as sheer entertainment.

You know, sheer entertainment. Who wouldn't think, move people around. Like, like pawns  and a chess board. You know,  I can go on and on about it. However,  it's, I wouldn't say it's a dub, but that's the reason why we do have to get together as people. But that's the reason why we also have to inspire those who are looking to become congressmen, those who are looking to become.

Senators, those are looking to become the next, um,  next, uh, um, um, president,  president, chief of staff, like those who like seriously looking to want to embed  our world. But then again, the president, I'll just keep it 100, the president is just a face. He's not really the man of power, the president, just the face.

And they say that, Oh, the president works for the people. For the people, body people, that's the president. We technically are the president's employees. You know, we employ the president. We invite you in, we use our money, our taxpayer dollars to like sit there and help you do whatever it is that you need to do to secure our safety and the continuation of our nation. 

But in most cases, the president is more the face, he's more the public figure. So when you have people like Donald Trump, who is in the office, who has said it, okay, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this.  And people actually, and Americans, we actually see the progression of it happening. It's like, wow, like, wow, we see it.

Okay. He's not a man just talk about it. He's a man that actually does it. However, I don't put anything past any politician, especially a businessman. So my thing is, we'll see how this turn up. We will see how this turn up. Yeah. One of the issues. You know, is that because of the age restrictions on running for president or congressman or these positions of power, you know It's it's lagging behind the people who are getting in are from 20 30 years ago in terms of morals ideas Politics and I mean any age you could keep up with modern politics but it's also just like a like you talked about embedded in our DNA and a lot of you know,  People who are older running for government positions or in government positions, it's just ingrained in them, you know, how they're doing things, because that's how they've been doing it for 30 years.

That's how their father and mother taught them. You know, I think we need to open up the platform to more younger people. And I think podcasting is so great because, you know, On the flip side, it's bad because anyone can do it on the bright side. It's great that anyone can do it. In fact, I was just watching a brief from the white house.

They said that the trust in mainstream media has dropped so far that so many people trust podcasts and social media more that podcasters. And social media influencers and content creators and, uh, you know, those private journalists. They can actually go to the White House now and apply to get credentials to cover all the briefings and stuff.

They said, we want podcasters here covering the news because people trust them more. Because most podcasters are disconnected from,  you know, anyone. Whereas a lot of the mainstream media, you know, they got connections. They've got money. Everyone has hands in someone's pocket. Right. Whereas the podcasters, most of us are independent podcasters, you know,  and unless some politician comes and offers up enough money and we're the kind of person to accept that, we're going to put out our content, you know, whether someone likes it or not.

So I'll pass it back to you for some thoughts on that. I just think, you know, you talk about. You know, mainstream media people, you know, analyzing the message they're putting out and so many people are just so tired of the mainstream Media just being so manipulative of fear mongering of just  fake news You know a lot of people hate that term because they say, you know, Trump said it But there's been fake news for four years before Trump was even in office.

There's been fake, you know news for a long time I mean, you can have two news channels on at the same time both telling you the opposite story, you know  Because it's sheer entertainment It's literally what it is. It is sheer entertainment. News nowadays is just entertainment. Like, honestly, like,  there's no, like, news, CNN,  uh, NBC, ABC, they're no different from MTV.

Nowadays, nowadays, it's literally just entertainment as we speak. I think that's why most indi, most individuals tend to pull towards podcasts or to pull to influencers or those who have spoken about their pride works and or reading books. Speaking about their pride works from working in certain administrations because it's a tell all.

They have nothing to gain from telling you a lie. You know, if anything,  there was solidified a better and brighter future for themselves by telling you the truth and not playing your face as if you're dumb. And I think that's why a lot of people probably see as many of us as pawns and think that okay, you know what, it's like a kid, right?

So if a kid crying and whining, then I would just shut that kid up technically.  Let's see. Okay. You'd be like, okay, well we're gonna go get Dairy Queen. Have a Happy Meal. Happy Meal for McDonald's, or have a toy or a lollipop, laughy, taffy, I don't know, whatever. Whatever kid finds enjoyable or the, they'd be like, oh, here's a ball.

You play with this and that. Oh, let's, let's go to Toys Rs.  The Toys Rs. Even the thing too, I know. I think it's gone now. Yeah. Gone. Right. Raging ourselves. Asian ourselves. That's a little age. We're at that point where we can tell our age now. Yeah. You know, seriously, or like, let me like order some things off of Amazon or buddy.

Yeah. This guy, my kid, this new Amazon Alexa speaker or just Google or not whatever to distract that kid from it. Initial pain. It, I call it, it distract the kid from their initial pain. All right. merch,  you know, seriously. So the thing is, it's the same thing with. Certain individual power, like, like, it's honestly, I don't put it past if one thing what you said really intrigued me about  being able to have press pass, um, have podcasters coming to be oppressed because essentially we do kind of like, do kind of like share the news in a sense, not entirely.

We just do it in our own way. Go back to your origin story, DC. Go back to your roots. No, forever. I should definitely get back into that. Um, I mean, I am also a communications major, um, minor in journalism, so that's that. Um, came to New York to further it and, um, that's kind of one of the reasons I'm the hiatus of the show, the two year gap, because I'm just like focusing on so many other things.

Yeah. And, um,  Yeah. And then like, you know, it's good. You know, you meet individuals such as yourself, God, you explore, you actually come back with more knowledge. And if the thing, it was a thing that a friend of mine said, like, sometimes it's best to be wise and just be smart because wisdom is applied knowledge. 

You know, smart is knowing, you know,  But wisdom is applying it, you know, so I think that was a good thing for the whole brief two year gap. And with me being able to explore and meet certain individuals and travel into talking I've gotten a lot of knowledge, you know, I've definitely been to  been through hell and back, as most of us say. 

I think for the most part with us as a people, we all have been through hell and back. We've all experienced setbacks. We all experienced growth and we all are wiser than we think we are. Because we always pursuing it,  you know, that applied knowledge is one thing to know, but now as people, especially nowadays in this technological age, we are actively looking.

We like, you know what they said that let me go ahead and check out these reviews. Let me go ahead and go on social media and see other credible sources that said the same thing. And then you have people that it's kind of debunking it. Now you can like. Using your own type of knowledge, um, interpersonal skills to try to figure out what is actually happening.

So,  and it says we all kind of like already there. So please, Bob Matthews, give me a press pass. Cause you get a press pass. You get a press pass. You get a press pass on my Oprah.  We all get a press pass and just go ahead and just see what's really going on. Get to the nitty gritty.  Yeah, it creates an age of accountability, you know, because greater than one. 

Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, with so many people getting the story now, you can, you know, it's just like science, the greater the sample size, the more accurate it is typically, right? As long as everything is being done properly,  you know, if you have. You say, hey, two out of three people like candy. So most people like candy.

But then you do. Oh, only 20 out of 300 people like candy. See how the numbers just completely changed the result, you know, so it's the same way. So if you have a lot of, you know, podcasters are saying, Hey, this is what happened. And you have only a few saying or mainstream media saying that didn't happen and vice versa.

So I think it will create some accountability. And basically what I'm hearing You know, Mr. Dashtor is that instead of watching CNN or Fox News or all this crap on mainstream media, people should just be watching a couple of nukes and dash it out. That's what I'm hearing. I think that's the ultimate, um, better plan, right? 

A hundred percent. The way you said it like that, a couple of nukes and dash it out. It's funny. Cause then, you know, the exact definition of, uh, dash it out. Uh, it's essentially just go, go, um, go from, and do like, yeah, let's go. Um,  so he's like a couple of nukes and dash it out,  drop a couple of nukes and just dip. 

I did think that I was like.  I was like, what? I was like, wow, you know, this is like some air force one, like come up and drop these nukes and dip. And, uh, and also you also, um, a veteran as well. Yes, sir. So yeah, it's kind of interesting. Just the two and two, but yeah, no, seriously, it would be, it would definitely be dope.

It definitely be dope. And you know, like me, like It's been a while since I've gotten back into podcasting, but since I've gotten back into it, all I can think about is expanding and expansion, even like what, uh, yesterday kind of came up from this networking event, met a ton of people and great, great creators. 

Some just influences, as we were speaking about, some are just influences that pretty much market like beauty products, skin products, hair care products, and you have those who are like authors, you have some designers, some of those models. And yeah, I realized that we all have in common 

is that dream.  Go, the need, the need to really, really hone. Your craft, your skill,  and the realization I had when I was at this networking event yesterday was just like, wow, did that shit all show?  I'm just sitting here just envisioning the future of it. And I'm also envisioning the future of we, we create in the future.

The more,  the more advanced we get, the more we create our future  like 20, 30 years from now, who can say go a lot right now. I'd like to say to have a show, come on out a couple of nukes 30 years ago,  how powerful would it have been to really create.  a show and pep of audience that tuning in, listen to the messages that you convey, because they can relate to it.

The platform is huge. You generate it. Yes. I'm not saying it's impossible, but  30 years ago, I would have been a little bit difficult.  Well, and you know what  you and I are some of the last real podcasters  and creators, because we're coming upon a time period where. Our kids and our grandkids, if they want to host a podcast, they're going to have an AI make everything for them.

They're going to have the AI make the thumbnails. There are AI There are podcasts being voiced by AIs right now, being recorded, scheduled. You and I are part of the last generations here that, um, actually create stuff by hand. You and I learned, you know, penmanship and cursive in school. Now kids are just going to learn how to type.

They might not even know how to use pens and pencils, you know. We drew our own pictures. Now everyone has  When I was growing up, we didn't even really have digital art. You wouldn't, like, if you wanted to go get a tattoo, the guy would draw it by hand. Now they have layers and layers on the iPad, and they can just remove and change anything at a time.

I mean, just from you and I being alive, we've seen so much advancement and change. So when you talk about how, like, What we're doing is something that's part of this time period, just as I've had people in their 80s come on my show and they did things that you and I would never have the opportunity to do nowadays.

So our kids and grandkids and great grandkids will be, maybe they won't even know or be able to do something like this because they just have a AI do it for them. Isn't that a crazy thought? I know a few people who have said the same thing, what you said. So let me just ask you this one quick question.

Yeah, for sure.  All right.  Do you feel as though  as we progressively move forward in the development of our nation of the world in general, do you feel as though the generation the younger generation now and the generation after them, the generation after them, do you feel as though they're going to lose some form of integrity or some type of life?

Like life skills that's needed to help them survive. Do you think that 100 percent 200 percent I've had this conversation on my show a few times, like in my, uh, to be a working man and a working man's guide episode. You know, we talked about how look at social skills, you know, and, and even in other episodes about conformity when you generate an AI.

If you're working with an AI, and let's say it gets to the point where everyone has an AI assistant, you tell it how to be. I could go and chat to GPT right now and be like, Hey, your name is Caroline, you're 22 years old, but you've got a Masters in, you know, coding, and, uh, you know, I'm your boss, and you text me with exclamation marks and emojis, and you do everything I say.

You know, you can make the personality type however you want. In the real world, And I'm sure you've dealt with it, uh, your co workers aren't how you programmed them to be. They, uh, are annoying and they can be rude and lazy, right? You could have some great co workers. Who you tellin Yeah, exactly. So you, you, you know what's up.

And when you have these AIs and you're doing everything with AIs, there's no Um, there's no, like, dislikes or upsets. Everything is conformed to how you want it to be. And you go out in the real world, and you have to deal with real people. Just like, if everyone ends up dating AI robots, or, or, or having these, you know, chatbots and stuff.

Again, you know, we talked about how people are spending more and more time inside. And how, you know, when, if kids spend so much time inside and out socializing, and then they do go out in public, you know, they're not gonna be able to handle their emotions properly. Right? If you have an AI who tolerates You know, poor sportsmanship and your kid grows up thinking that's acceptable.

And then she goes out your daughter and plays a real game in the real world and throws a fit and flips over the table and stuff. I mean, it's going to be different consequences. And I think, uh, we talked about work ethic.  Here's how I see technology as it's there to make life easier, but you should know how to do everything without it, you know And I don't want to quote, you know Captain America and Tony Stark here, but if in in spider man, but if you're nothing without the suit you shouldn't have it You know, I think AI and technology should be  I look at human beings should be able to make cars by hand with no assembly line.

You know, they should be able to mine for ore with a pickaxe. But we have drills and electronic tools to make it easy. I think all the farmers in America. If they lost all their John Deere, not a sponsor, equipment and had to do stuff by hand, they should be able to do it. In the same way, our kids should still learn math and science and reading, but what are our kids doing?

They're having, if they get assigned to read a book in school, they say, Hey, Chad GPT, you know, Wuthering Heights, give me an essay in this style. This, this, this, and that they're losing the ability of critical thinking of analyzing of literature of everything. So as we're going forward, we're almost going backwards, you know, and it's sad to see, it's sad to see that I know people my age, you know, who don't know how to read an analog clock, who can't read Roman numerals, who don't know cursive, who are so reliant on AIs for everything.

I mean, just just asking their AI what they should make for dinner. You know, it's, it's a age of. Reliance and marketing and consumerism, but honestly, let's keep it on it. Okay,  because  yes, technology is there to make things easier,  but it is also making things harder because you have people that's losing critical thinking.

Yeah.  But it's also like a process of elimination because you have those who are equipped.  Certain people that have, let's say, some people that have financial,  uh,  I wouldn't say financial  success, but most of those who are able and equipped to have  the best education, they go to the best educational systems because of financial luxuries, x, y, and z, you know. 

So let's for instance say, okay, like Bill Gates. Okay. So Bill Gates kids, they may use AI and X, Y, and Z, but you think for a second that they can be like, okay, do you want to rely on this? No, because what the process of elimination is that, okay, the general population is constantly using  everything that we put out on the market that make their lives better, which sometimes it does,  but then they start to forget their true innate gifts  and that can make that person  Less marketable, less viable.

So when you try to get a job or try to go into a workforce, what are you, there's no, there's no value, you're not viable. There's nothing valuable about you besides  what it is that you doing that I can already do for myself. Right. But then you have those who are already on that wavelength, like, look, you know what I can use this, I don't need it, but I wouldn't do it to show you the relatability factor myself, but I don't need it.

That person is more viable because if everything's so black if this a whole, if this, if there was a  blackout across  the government, the US,  like a global blackout.  It really would be survival of the fittest at that point. You know what I'm saying? Can you read a map? Can you actually pull out a map? Can you pull out a map and actually  Find yourself on your way to the woods or,  uh, like at least, at least a thousand acres.

Can you at least find your way through that? You know what I'm saying? It's things like that. You know, can you speak a different language? Can you speak Spanish? Can you speak French? Suppose you may meet somebody and you're not sure what this puts forward is education and accountability. But, but you, but that's the thing, because nowadays you can just take your phone and go to Google Translate.

Or Siri and just be like, Oh, this is not what they say. Put up to their mouth, have them  speak into it and you can just translate it. But if there's a blackout and all the cell towers is down and out,  and you can't do that, then what? So I get exactly what you're saying because as we progress forward,  as,  as, as the human species, we all kind of  digressing as well.

So I can, I can,  I can, I can, I can hardly believe what you said. At just certain times, I'm just like, damn, I love my technology though. Well, here's, here's the thing. I'll make two points. The first is, there'll be survival of the fittest. And that's only going to be, this is going to emphasize that self education and being a lifelong learner is the most important thing that while you have this technology, you learn as much as you can to survive without it.

You know, and that's going to put you ahead of everyone who just took it for granted and didn't learn and didn't prepare. You know, they, they say that luck is just when opportunity meets preparation. Right. So if you got to be constantly preparing caveat, the nice thing about AI  and, and the computers and I said, no, I want a blackout and all, but just saying, yeah, you know, is that it's allowing so many more people access to education that they couldn't get beforehand.

You know, I think that it is. Leveling the field to some degree. Obviously, there are still a lot of people in the world who can't afford a computer or a phone, but with a lot of open A. I. S. being free, it really helps streamline their ability to get an at home online self education. So that's the only thing I will say that is like there's a lot of good to it.

In fact, there's a lot of good to it. But I think overall, you know, to bring it back, you talk about you and I, you know, looking back and being like we made our show by hand. And I'm actually, you know, one of the things I emphasize is the, I personally like doing a majority of creating my show by myself without the use of AI tools.

Uh, because I, I, I like it, you know, like writing the show descriptions myself, making the titles myself, designing the artwork myself. I might use some AI tools to help generate. Some certain parts of it, but I like to put as much human work into it as possible to, to make it unique, to make it me. And I think it's so important because now we're in an age where a lot of stuff is becoming copy paste.

You know, A. I. s are building foundations off of what's already made. They can't necessarily generate stuff that is too new or too unique. So, they can look at my show and your show and make something similar, but it's not gonna be its own unique show, technically. You know, it's just a combination of your show and my show, the best elements of it.

It's, it, A. I. didn't just come up with this idea, like, now we have this podcast, and it's gonna be this style and this, you know. So, I think human creativity, and human work ethic and seeking knowledge. We need to keep all of those as core values and as something that all of us constantly pursue. So that is just on that.

And this is speaking about the future. I know you talked about going to more networking events, putting out more episodes. So to kind of sum it up, you know, we talked about dash it out show. What is it looking like as you continue to expand and to grow?  That's where I see the future of the National Show Podcast. 

Honestly,  I see a lot for it. I see a lot for it. Um, one More gas, which means more talk. More talk  means more engagement. More engagement means, okay, I have the ear. So what is the next step? The next step is to really talk and actually not talk, but actually showcase of me doing and taking care of certain social issues.

But he was talking about with the whole gun violence, that's when we saw the whole press pass to the White House, that will be a plus, you know, that will actually show me going in doing and actually taking initiative to not only yes, but actually stop petitions, you know, start getting get individuals or,  again, certain certain people testimonies that will really help cultivate what is this exactly that I'm trying to convey. 

But as far as everything else, I mean, I would like to see the national show. Become a syndicated, you know, TV show, daytime TV show or nighttime TV shows. Like I could, I could do either one. I could, I could, I could be up there, you know, you know, I could be like on some breakfast club, you know, I can see something like that.

Or I was like time and all I can see doing something similar like that. Or it can be on some late night junkie, like Arsenio Hall or maybe, um, Oh, my good man, Jimmy Fallon. Yeah, you know, something similar, you know, and at the same time, it's don't have to necessarily be  You know, just straight serious but I wanted to have a serious aspect I want to get the message across.

Yeah, funny because I was I had an interview with a guy named Damien Damar which episode is going to be dropping soon as well. And he was very upset he was talking about the end of the world and most of you could say he's coming off as conceited.  That's not the case. So I've been ahead. We interviewed, we talk.

However, there came a point in the episode that particular episode where there was like a brief segment, which is pretty much the fun Q and A, which I did with you as well.  He was just like, why do I feel the need to talk about this? I need to talk about it. I'll talk about the end of the world. You're like, you need, you want to have a game?

I'm just like, yeah, because you know why? Because sometimes you need to break the ice.  I feel comfortable with talking about him about this on your show. However, look, no take backs. Okay. Cause I, I clearly said this on my show about him and the comment that he made. Sometimes you need to break the ice and everyone,  everyone process information the same,  you know, it's almost like, like, that's why you have certain grade levels.

If you a little bit smarter than your classmates and what you do, you get skipped ahead because it's like nothing. And that they can tell you is you don't already know, but in those who take the process information a little differently, you have to present it a little differently to them. Yeah. That's essentially what we do as podcasters that everyone tuned into the news that everyone wants to see here and read the newspaper.

Sometimes people want to get their information from other viable entertainment sources, such as podcasts, such as, um, Like radio shows, you know, some people would like to get the information those ways or probably scrolling on your phone and newsfeed like, Oh, well, and just to stop, you know,  It's things like that.

So, my thing is, with the Dash It Out show, yes, I want it to be, I want it to be informative, but I want it to be entertaining and informative. I want people to, I want people that's  like mine, and those who are not to be able to still have takeaways from the show. So, if that means having a daytime talk show where I do probably have a brief second about speaking about, um, pop culture for a brief second. 

Take that narrative back to the subject matter at hand, which is originally what people tune into the show for which is being about real topics from people from all walks of life.  And those who aspire to do whatever it is they want to do. I would never sit there and take back from artists. Who want to explore and grow.

I'm not going to sit there and say, don't do it, but I'm gonna let you know, what is yourself into what you need to prepare yourself for? Protect your integrity, prepare to prepare for the fight and also prepare to expand and to grow because you have to stand for something or anything. And I, you, you know, this better than I do. 

And, you know, I gotta ask, because my curiosity is piqued, you know, you've been, uh, for those of us just listening, you've been having a little sip of a drink this whole time. I have to know, is it whiskey, or did you bring something different to the show? Oh, no, no, no, it's not whiskey. This is, like, wine.  This is, like, Chardonnay.

Oh. This is, this is, this is actually a tequila glass that was gifted to me, um, But now this is, this is just wine. It's a little white wine and I also have my cup here. Water.  Dark side. Walk to the dark side. Star Wars.  And then a little water. I  actually have another. Is it really water or is it water that you're turning into wine?

It's definitely kind of both. In a minute I'm gonna turn into  wine too. So I can have a double shot of, double shot of wine. Not gonna be a double shot of whiskey. It's gonna be a double shot of wine. Yeah, well, as my friend Big Red once said, wine is for chugging. And then he would chug a bottle of wine and pass out.

But, uh, he doesn't drink anymore. He had like maybe once or twice that he did that. And he's like, I'm done drinking wine.  And you know the crazy thing was, I was a little bit hesitant. I was just like, I watched a few of your show episodes, of course, obviously. And the recent one is Alcoholism recovery is a big one.

Alcoholism recovery addiction with your father. So, um  I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure it's probably a little touchy for you to see me drinking. And, um, considering your background with your father who was  essentially an alcoholic,  like for the worst, but it's not my place to really say that that's your life, you know, don't get me wrong. 

I have a mother who's an alcoholic, you know, I'll call it to my family. That's the reason why  I kind of move differently. My thing is  I know how to handle myself with it because of what I've been through. Like, you know, I have a lot of things. I wouldn't say my mother was an alcoholic. I would never disgrace my mother in that way.

But let's just say that she had a lot of alcoholic tendencies that could have been, things could have been presented a little bit better. Things could have been done a lot better and she could have presented herself a lot better to us as a family. So, I mean, I can relate with some things that she was speaking about in your prior episode.

However, in my case, I learned to take back my power. It's not about what you do, it's about how you do it. My thing is, if everyone run away from everything because of their past, then where will we be? Like, where will we be? And too much of anything is not good for you. Too much water is not even healthy. 

If too much water is not healthy and we 70 percent water in our body, that just goes to show that everything is done in moderation, you got to have a strong sense of self and you got to have discipline to know what it is that you what you are and what you're about. However, out of respect, I was like a little hesitant,  but it was a little something to take the edge off.

And to be honest,  I was like you know what.  Maybe, maybe, maybe you wouldn't have sweated that much.  No, not at all. You know, it wouldn't be much of an issue. I mean, it is just it is a little wine, but but kind of thinking about it. I was like, ah, as we were speaking, I was just like, oh, you did have the last.

No, you're totally fine. You know, you had the last episode and I was like,  yeah, you're totally, totally fine. You know, as the date of this recording this morning, I was on the show Success to Significance with Lady Jen Duplessis.  And, uh, I had met her on a beach in Mexico, you know, on a podcaster's cruise.

And, uh, on her show this morning, we were talking about, you know, her experience with alcoholic parents and mine. And we talked about, we shared why she drinks and why drink, you know, and I think we're a lot more reserved with it, but we both decided that. We wanted to drink. You know, for me, it was my best friend in boot camp said, Mr.

Whiskey is not your choice not to drink. I said, What do you mean? You know, I've chosen to never drink alcohol. You know, it's destroyed my family. I've seen it destroy a lot of lives. And he said, Well, you're just living in fear. If you drink it and choose to never drink again, then you've made your choice.

And I told him, you know, I'm writing your name down on a piece of paper with explanation. So if I do become a terrible alcoholic, I can blame it all on you sign here, you know, but I drank and you know, I didn't drink. become an alcoholic, and I didn't do the things that my father did, and I didn't behave the way he did.

And so,  I've also analyzed it from a biblical perspective, you know, and the Bible doesn't say drinking is a sin, it says drunkenness, excessive drunkenness, and it says in Proverbs, you know, wine is a mocker, beer is a brawler, whoever is led astray from them is a fool. You know, it's not against the Bible to drink, but I like that part, whoever is led astray by them.

You know, there's a difference between drinking and being led astray by drinking. Whether that's alcoholism or just drunken text, it could be whatever it is. And yeah, I have nothing against a little wine to take the edge off. And you know, it's been a long time since I drank on this show, but on some holiday episodes.

I did, uh, I did spike a McDonald's shamrock shake now to sponsor with some Jack Daniels, you know, so I've had a drink or two on the show. It's been a while, but yeah, I was just curious cause I saw the color and I was trying to figure out what it was. Yeah. I mean, I kind of figured he was going to speak about it eventually because of the times when I did actually raise the glass to the camera, he was actually, he was either looking down or looking over and I was just like, Oh, he didn't see it that times. 

Yeah, no, you're totally fine. I felt like I should have had a drink with you. I felt like I was missing out. Nah, it's just something small. I'm actually, um, invited to a comedy show after this and I'm about to go there. Um, a good friend of mine who, uh, coordinated the event, um, invited me, so I'm going to go there a little bit after that and, um, yeah, so I'm pre gaming. 

Yeah, I get what you're saying. I'm pricing New York prices for no comedy show. I'm sorry. I just can't. You talked about different mediums and people processing information differently. That's a subject we covered a lot on the show, so I won't go too much into it, but you know. Some people need a more comedic approach.

Some people need, you know, some F bombs thrown at them. Some people need encouragement. Everyone's different. Do you see yourself branching into comedy more with, uh, in terms of stand up comedy or, you know, maybe a comedy performance? You know, I've, I've performed comedy. I've branched, you know, I never expected it.

I branched into comedy and I'd love to see you do the same, of course. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm glad that you said that. Yes. Yes. I definitely got to perform together is what I'm getting at. Ultimately. I'm definitely down. Definitely down. Yeah. You know, uh, I'm definitely down and um,  I definitely see myself branching off into comedy.

Uh,  do I see Merk's a good place for it?  Yeah. You know, and so that's kinda one of the reasons why I was like, oh, lemme go ahead and go to the comedy show. Good friend of mine put it together, orchestrated like, okay, lemme go ahead and go. I've been in a few comedy shows before. Um, I listen to a lot of, um, um, uh, comedic, um,  but  I've never really felt the need to. 

Do it. It was one time probably when I was very, very young, probably like, oh, 12, 13, or should I say? I say very young, but 12, 13. Oh, yeah, I was young. I was a baby. I should be, I should be a jokester. I was a jokester and I used to always come up with these little random jokes. And one day my father was just like, Oh, you should be, you should be a comedian, you should do this, do that.

I never really took it to heart because I never really had the heart for it. But, um, now where I'm at in my life, I tend to make joke of the hard times. Sometimes  it's kind of easy to laugh,  you know, cry because cry you have to really go into a state of desolation and isolation, whereby laughing sometimes you just think about that one funny moment.

Yeah, smile and just giggle. Even if you don't grin or like laugh, you can still  have internal release and turn over leaf. Exactly. So I think it seemed like a lot of comics does do that. A lot of comments that have their comedy shows and to be able to do have that power to really get people outside themselves when they feel like trash. 

I think that's a very, that's a very powerful gift. That's a very powerful gift. And to be honest,  I would really love to explore that avenue, and I'm glad that you brought that question up. Yeah, it's a gift and also a skill that you can work on, yeah, so next time we get together, we'll have to perform a little something.

And, uh, yeah, in fact, I'll include my, uh, last comedy performance in the description of this episode for people to check out. But if you want some laughs and some life advice, we'll have the Dash It Out website in the description below for everyone to check out. So they can check out your content from blogs to videos to the podcast as well as contact you about being a guest on the show You know, it sounds like you welcome a lot of guests from as you said every walk of life So I highly encourage everyone listening go to apply to be on that show check it out And if it's a good fit for you, you know get in touch with mr Dash story is a great guy and I want to thank you for coming on the show today Having a conversation as we've had, and you know, for putting in this time and effort to help do something good for the world.

I appreciate that,  but I truly do appreciate you, Mr. Whiskey. Thank you so much for having me on the show.  Uh, yeah, I mean, this was, I wouldn't say a long time coming, but it was destined. And however, I'm definitely down to definitely come back on again. He can definitely come back on a dash it out show now that we're more acquainted.

I feel as though we definitely have a lot more to talk about. And now that we both know. The comedy is there.  We're going to play more than one game next time. Yes, seriously. For sure. But it was definitely a pleasure. Thank you so much again.  You're a real one. You're a real one.  You're a real one. And I respect you.

I respect you.